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Readers comment on Solaris
SunWorld Online respondents generally happy with operating system
By Mark Cappel
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We gave SunWorld Online readers the chance to comment in essay form on their thoughts on Solaris, and many seized that opportunity.
The comments are reproduced as received; only some minor spelling and punctuation errors have been corrected. -- Editors
Topic: Tell us what you think about Solaris.
- Date: Sat Jun 1 03:33:51 PDT 1996
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Lack of integration with Windows NT Niggling differences between UNIX
versions. XPG4 versions of UNIX utilities is not the default - standard
shell is ancient Bourne shell rather than ksh. Incomplete implementation
of CDE (too many utilities only available in OpenWindows form) On-line
documentation is only accessable through AnswerBook, which needs DPS. I
want documentation in Netscape readable form so I can access it from *any*
desktop. Sun's software modules mean that my PATH (and MANPATH) has to be
ridiculously long to make all options available.
- Date: Sat Jun 1 06:43:12 PDT 1996
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- Completing the setup of production grade backups, particularly
addressing the issue of locking databases during backup.
- Automating
install of layered products and patches during custom jumpstart. One would
think that given the effort to make network install of the OS work well,
and the standard packaging of products and patches, that these latter
would also have been integrated into the custom jumpstart mechanism by Sun
rather than leaving it to each customer.
- Conversion of an existing perl
based install to the Solaris package based mechanism for my customer's
product.
- Automation of the installation of a standalone system, from
bare OS up, without the ability to custom jumpstart from another system. I
would really like to see a way to extend the custom jumpstart to removable
media such as tape. Well, those are my top 4. Don't have time to cover
more.
- Date: Sat Jun 1 09:00:46 PDT 1996
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Lack of support from third party software vendors. An example, most of the
plugins available for Netscape are not available for Solaris. Where are
the SDK's for Netscape?, for Adobe Photoshop?. I would also like to see a
64bit PCI SPARC machine and support for the respective cards available
from vendors. There really are very few SBUS cards available, and little
competition. I would also like to see a version of Solaris x86, in its
entirety optimized for the Pentium Pro, and later XIL, XGL, VIS? support
for the MMX extensions.
- Date: Sat Jun 1 09:52:37 PDT 1996
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Availability of specialized software (e.g. MR Spectroscopy, imaging) is
quite limited. Much of the process of managing systems has been made
tremendously harder in Solaris (e.g. managing serial ports, printers, etc
was much easier in SunOS)
- Date: Sun Jun 2 11:59:10 PDT 1996
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Performance and complexity. KISS should rule. Solaris is almost as bloated
as windows. If BSDI or Linux ever get STRONG support, Sun's lead in the
Internet market will dissipate.
- Date: Sun Jun 2 12:09:10 PDT 1996
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CDE in Solaris 2.5 is buggy and has fewer features than OpenWindows in
Solaris 2.3.
- Date: Sun Jun 2 19:12:43 PDT 1996
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It's difficult to upgrade older systems to Solaris, even if they have
enough CPU and RAM to run it well. The problem lies in training users
(fixing old .cshrc and .xinitrc's with SunOS dependencies) and upgrading
old legacy software. Personally, I prefer Solaris because Sun has just
abandoned SunOS; it is too insecure, and requires too much work to get to
a usable state (upgrade sendmail, install resolv+, X11R5, etc..) while
Solaris has many of these tools built-in. At home, I like to run both
FreeBSD and Solaris, FreeBSD when I need speed, and Solaris when I want
Motif and SVR4 compatibility (testing a program I wrote, for example).
It's too bad there isn't more application support for Solaris/x86, because
it isn't a bad OS. One final note: If you have old SPARCstation's running
SunOS, and you want a newer, more supported OS, but don't have the
horsepower for Solaris, try NetBSD! It's 4.4BSD, *free*, includes source
code, has excellent SunOS binary compatibility, and runs great on old
Sun4's (or even Sun-3's!). Too bad it doesn't work as well on the Sun4m's
(e.g. SPARCstation 20) then it would be perfect!
- Date: Mon Jun 3 02:43:39 PDT 1996
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Solaris is almost a great operating system. As an administrator it's great
- installation, configuration and managament are pretty well trivial.
Unfortunately the GUI tools are pretty poor, but you don't need them
anyway. The other great advantage of Solaris is its ubiquity. Pretty well
any application I want runs on it as a result, and can be made to run
easily without excessive work. So Solaris is an easy platform to run a
general purpose service on. However, it has its weaknesses. Performance is
poor - application start up times are terrible. Given all the work on
Solaris it's only just about caught up with SunOS. Memory usage is high
(but we've not had as many problems with memory as some have reported).
Boot times aren't very good (not helped by some other weaknesses that
force reboots more often than we would like). OpenWindows is abysmal in
several ways - it's not been compiled correctly, so that the built in
paths don't match the install locations and you have to fool with
environment variables to get it to work. OpenWindows is slow - I suspect
this is really the tools rather than the underlying system. Anything that
uses DPS ought to be scrapped it's so slow. CDE isn't much better, it
initially looks very polished but after a little experience we loathed it.
We also keep running into little bugs and weaknesses. Far too many to get
a comfortable feeling. The problems are rarely major, but there are hordes
of them.
- Date: Mon Jun 3 03:20:08 PDT 1996
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Extra cost of UNIX software compared to the same packages on Wintel
systems can make it hard to justify investment in Solaris/RISC hardware &
software.
- Date: Mon Jun 3 03:30:17 PDT 1996
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A lot of applications are not ported over from SunOS to Solaris 2.x. We
have the fastest system - Ultra 1 - but no software to run. Frustrating.
- Date: Mon Jun 3 07:24:13 PDT 1996
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No growable JFS (disksuite just doesn't cut it) as in AIX
- Date: Mon Jun 3 07:41:42 PDT 1996
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I am currently looking into loading Solaris 2.5 onto my PC as I'm tired of
WINSOCK.DLL contentions between my Internet server stack and my X-server
stack, lack of Adobe PS support in my X-server software and being tied to
Windows for Corporate E-mail. Under Solaris for Intel and WABI, or a
Caldera/WABI solution once released, I hope to remain as much in a Unix
environment as possible.
- Date: Mon Jun 3 08:49:58 PDT 1996
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Adminsuite makes administering systems difficult... GO back to admintool.
- Date: Mon Jun 3 08:55:00 PDT 1996
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Price... Availability of Applications...
- Date: Mon Jun 3 10:32:14 PDT 1996
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Configuring SOLARIS for a optimal AND SECURE web server Improving MAIL
characteristics, ease of admin
- Date: Mon Jun 3 10:32:49 PDT 1996
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I think David Korn's new ksh93 should be made part of base Solaris. See
http://www.research.att.com:80/cgi-ssr/lic.sh?binary for details.
- Date: Mon Jun 3 10:58:23 PDT 1996
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Although I will admit that there are some things I do like about solaris,
it is basically a nightmare. Here are some of the things I wish Sun would
fix most of them cause me to rethink my os options, and frequently choose
against Solaris 2.x :
- On x86 systems, the video installation is very
difficult. Especially for those of us who have never worked on x86 systems
of any flavor before.
- The compiler doesn't come bundled. Now that one
can get the gnu c compiler it isn't so bad. But it'd be nice not to have
to deal with compiler issues and take advantage of the multiprocessing
options.
- Why make it soo difficult to port software to solaris.
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Sendmail,arg!, is so _painful_. Why not just buy and QA the latest version
of BSD sendmail? Why make every sysadmin in the world go through this?? I
hate it!
- Didn't sun invent NIS? Why doesn't solaris have NIS servers?
This is downright stupid. Why make NIS+ so flaming difficult to setup.
Kerberos is easier and valid on more platforms. The only way to replace
NIS, it to make it better, safer, easier, and available on all the
platforms NIS is currently available on, possibly for free. I'd be happy
to give my input on this.
- What happened to NFS? Can't this be better.
It seems to perform worse.
- Printers. I point them towards other
servers, and hope for the best...
- Screen graphics.
- Date: Mon Jun 3 12:47:47 PDT 1996
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2 Gb file size limit.
- Date: Mon Jun 3 12:52:47 PDT 1996
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- Migrating to Solaris 2.5
- Getting software to run under Solaris 2.5
(Lotus, WP, MS Word)
- Getting CDE to work properly with minimal
documentation * Setting up NIS+, when most other vendors are yet to
support it.
- Getting a version of DCE that runs under 2.5
- Date: Mon Jun 3 13:21:26 PDT 1996
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Integration with legacy systems
- Date: Mon Jun 3 13:54:24 PDT 1996
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It is difficult to get good support from the 1 (800) usa4sun tech support
groups on any problems that are non-trivial. This is particularly so with
the network group, although this group shares this distinction with other
groups also. As an example, I have a problem with Solaris 2.4 on a
SPARC/20 with 2 network interfaces: 1. a token ring interface, and 2. an
ethernet interface. Packets sent out from the token ring interface have a
source IP adress of the ethernet interface. I have not been able to get a
satisfactory answer as to why this is occuring. This is just an example of
my experiences with your tech support group.
- Date: Mon Jun 3 15:44:52 PDT 1996
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Why doesn't Solaris ship with xemacs? Sun is a co-developer of xemacs, but
the best editor they can include in the core OS is vi, which is hardly
newbie-friendly. Why doesn't Solaris ship with perl, either? Solaris
installs for me are always a two-step process. Step one is installing the
OS, step two is adding all the free and gnu tools to the machine.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 01:41:12 PDT 1996
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It is hard to configure the Solaris system. It should provide more
Windows-based configuration utility. By filling out the dialog boxes, a
user can configure the network system, for example, after clicking on the
OK button. This is the only place where Windows NT is better. If Solaris
can match up with this feature, it will be a perfect system over Winows
NT.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 05:00:00 PDT 1996
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The most difficult/perplexing issue facing our corporation today is the
momentum of WinNT server. While all agree that the SPARC/Solaris platform
provides all the services we require, supporting all the applications and
utilities we require to run in a production environment, we're still
challenged by point products available on NT. We've been extremely
successful within the bounds of "open standards" but sense a return to the
proprietary days of VMS, Netware, and Apple. Any advice?
- Date: Tue Jun 4 05:18:16 PDT 1996
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Poor TCP performance under certain circumstances Automounter support
across different Unixes (Solaris, AIX, IRIX) Confusing choice of two
printing systems (SunSoft and default)
- Date: Tue Jun 4 05:37:10 PDT 1996
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Using Xwindows/Motif -- need a clean way to set the $DISPLAY environment
variable when I rlogin or telnet to a remote host. Each time I rlogin, I
must type
setenv DISPLAY >displayname?:0
Otherwise include the following
in .login : set displayhost = `who am i|awk '{print $6}'| sed "s/[()]//g"`
setenv DISPLAY ${displayhost}:0 The above is not always reliable ( e.g.
when using my PC as an X-terminal via Exceed) Any suggestions? e-mail to
scofield@mail.scra.org
- Date: Tue Jun 4 07:33:52 PDT 1996
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Fitting Solaris into our standard infrastructure.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 08:23:48 PDT 1996
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I would like to upgrade to Solaris x86 2.5 but I don't have the time or
the money, but hey -- That's life.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 09:24:42 PDT 1996
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tcp/ip performance over WAN's for people on slow links sucks. How can you
claim to have "internet ready" servers if you cannot do the most basic of
connectivity? This has really hurt us after deploying lots of SS5's as
web/ftp servers. The overall quality of support has gone down. Getting
answers to our problems from Sun is getting more impossible. The front
line techs seem to know less and less about the OS. We found a bug in the
select() function that only shows up on MP systems. The front line techs
have been less than helpful in getting this resolved. At any rate, Solaris
seems like Sun took AT&T SysV, dumped some BSD stuff into the mix and
tried to make the spaghetti work. The best example of this is the tcp/ip
bug for slow links. In every T patch Sun broke a new thing. It was as
though nobody really knew what to fix and just blindly started changing
things. Let the customers figure out what breaks. Needless to say, we are
looking at other vendors for our solutions. The FreeBSD machines running
on PentiumPro PC's compete quite nicely with most of the SS5 and SS20
machines. The DEC Alpha's are also making a strong case for dopping Suns.
If Sun does not get their act together on the OS side of the house, they
will have to start doing NT so that people will buy the hardware. Gone are
the days in which people buy Sun because it is Sun.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 09:32:54 PDT 1996
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writing software and installation systems that have to deal with unknown
customer environments...is the customer using OpenWindows? CDE? Pure
X11R5/Motif? Pure X11R6/Motif? Motif2.0? where are their shared X
libraries located? what are their filenames? are they compatable with the
shared libraries my product linked against? will my applications X11
library be able to locate the customers X11 library and data files
(XKeysymDB, rgb.dat, etc...) the long-standing war between Motif and
Openlook on the Sun desktop may be over, but the issues involved due to
the lack of a true Sun "standard" (something that _everybody_ uses) is
still a problem at many sites. I find I have to statically link in my
X/Motif libraries, and I still have customer calls concerning their
particular X installation and my system not being able to find certain
files as expected...everybody puts their stuff in a different place... and
i've had to deal with this problem on Suns since 1990...
- Date: Tue Jun 4 09:50:49 PDT 1996
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Security - Internet related company Performance - Memory, disk, fine-
tuning Need for better graphical administration tools. I really wish Sun
would develop tools such as HP-UX's SAM or AIX's SMIT. The Admintool in
Solaris 2.5 has a long way to go to reach the sophistication of HP's and
IBM tools. I am happy with CDE on Solaris 2.5 but it can be a CPU and
memory hog.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 11:48:10 PDT 1996
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NIS to NIS+ transition, upgrading from SunOS
- Date: Tue Jun 4 11:55:35 PDT 1996
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Bugs on large 4d servers and slow response for fixes from Sun Soft.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 12:16:14 PDT 1996
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I think it's a memory hog. While I like all the new admin features I find
that I get about a 10 - 20 % slowdown on my older systems, IPX to Sparc10.
I think you need to fix this! Raoul
- Date: Tue Jun 4 12:39:24 PDT 1996
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I would like to use Solaris NEO for the PowerPC at home. However, UNIX
pricing of Solaris and applications that use Solaris make it prohibitively
expensive for personal use. I would like to see a personal use version
(including compilers, GUI builders, applications, etc.) priced reasonably
for home use with licensing that prohibits sale of any products developed
with the personal-use version.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 14:36:44 PDT 1996
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64 Bit support is the most important issue today. I understand the plan
that Sun has for rolling out 64 bit support, but I would prefer to see 64
bit support rolled out sooner. For my applications having a 64bit
filesystem is the most important option and limits the how competitive Sun
is with SGI
- Date: Tue Jun 4 15:13:26 PDT 1996
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How to get UNIX (Solaris 2) desktops share "Windows Server" applications
and NT data warehouse. Unix community here is more and more being isolated
or rather finding it hard to make use of corporate admin databases here,
which are mostly shared among NT clients. Unfortunately sparc
scientific/technical users cannot live without those data. Wabi
applications are ok but two things wrong with it are: 1) Cannot share
applications from a windows server, like a windows PC can. 2) Each user
has to have lots of disk space even with Wabiserver. The only option I see
to prevent sparc desktops being replaced by PCs is to buy Wincenter Pro
software from NCD and X-display a NT server console on desktop Suns as X-
clients. Wabi is good only for windows "Standalone" applications that
don't need to deal with an existing PC network community. I hate NT after
having enjoyed UNIX. But .... rest of the world seems to be happy. Hope
Java will blurr the OS differences. As far as Solaris2.5 goes, it is
Super.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 15:39:08 PDT 1996
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The automounter keeps dying. I still don't know why. The transition from
Sun OS 4.1.x is still on its way. BTW it is a royal pain the butt!!! How
about if you guys port DESCENT into Solaris 2.4 and above ? 8-) What about
the sound system ? I can only play mono audio files (damn .au) files with
the speakerbox and the audiotool. How the heck can I play stere audio
files ? Where can I get COMPLETE info about the SUN tape drive and the
relation for the different sizes of tapes ? Like if I use /dev/rmt/0 with
a 90 m tapes how much should I expect to put into the tape ? (GB ?) How
about /dev/rmt/0h with a 90 m tape and a 120m tape ? What's the capacity
that I should expect ? Hopefully you guys will have more info about it.
There is plenty of stuff to go around, but a DAMN SPARC 4 just died here,
so I have to go .. later ...
- Date: Tue Jun 4 16:06:14 PDT 1996
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GUI system administration for a mere mortal.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 16:21:43 PDT 1996
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- Microsoft Windows is NOT an operating system
- TWM is a window
manager, not a 'user environment'.
- Motif is a specification, not a
'user environment'.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 17:48:59 PDT 1996
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Keeping Oracle running on the Sparc.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 18:24:42 PDT 1996
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Hard to maintain all the patches for different versions on handful of
SPARCs. TCP perfomance on slow links issue in SOlaris 2.5
- Date: Tue Jun 4 18:47:49 PDT 1996
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Modem support is terrible. Printer support is terrible. Applications for
graphics and web development are terrible. Sun calls itself an Internet
company but they are supporting a $3000 Web Developers Package
(Photoshop+Illustrater+Framer) that is much less functional than $100 PC
packages like HotDog. I believe Sun must:
- Improve printer support.
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Improve modem support.
- Make software consulting cheaper.
- Make
graphics and Web page tools development cheap. Games would be nice too.
How come the PCs already have a nicer IDE than Sun for Java, eh?
- Date: Tue Jun 4 19:27:08 PDT 1996
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Tools to assist with porting from SunOS 4.1.4 and HP-UX.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 21:13:50 PDT 1996
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OpenGL should be available now (at least it *is* coming, finally). Really
this should have happened long ago, sticking with XGL was dumb. A video
player capable of playing MPEG, QuickTime and AVI movies should be a
standard utility (like on SGI's). This is especially true with the MPEG
support in the Ultra machines (via VIS). The audio tool should be able to
play AIFF, WAV and MPEG audio, not just AU. A 3D model & VRML viewer would
be a nice standard utility to have (and would also make a good demo for
the Ultra/Creator3D machines). The CDE file manager should be improved (a
lot!).
- Date: Tue Jun 4 21:36:42 PDT 1996
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I think that Solaris is probably best placed as THE Unix in terms of
Industry support and features. I would like to see it (Solaris) and not
"generic UNIX" compared realistically head to head by an unbiased report
(i.e. not one by the Unix Centric Sunworld Online, or the Sun hating PC-
loving Byte or PC World. The features compared should focus on "server"
and "adminstration" functionality. I think/suspect that sunsoft may have
lost SOME focus in positioning Solaris as the Unix to measure NT by, based
on all the current Java hype. They should use some of the publicity by
pushing Solaris X86 at all the people who are downloading Java Workshop,
and JDK. The PowerPC Solaris while I am sure exists seems to be very
elusive in terms of finding machines that actually run it.
- Date: Tue Jun 4 21:43:28 PDT 1996
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* WABI doesn't support truecolor (24 bit) - Solaris_x86. * dtmail doesn't
allow you to modify the message. * dtmail doesn't send framemaker
attachments to SunOS 4.1.x systems (doesn't covert them to 7bits -
uudecode vice mime. Even if you specify "Send as Sun Mail Tool"
- Date: Tue Jun 4 23:15:19 PDT 1996
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The x86 version has a long way to go in catching up with the Sparc
version... x86 can be very difficult to install depending on the hardware
on the machine (granted, PC's are terrible there..) Solaris needs to adopt
features that have started surfacing in research/free OS's like Linux,
Plan 9, etc.. Solaris should bundle additional file systems such as Log
based filesystems, it might make sense to bundle most of the functionality
included in DiskSuite.. Solaris should have more support for legacy
hardware such as previous generation graphics accelerators such as the GT,
cg12 etc.. Its a poor idea to drop support for devices that were
originally worth more than 20% of the price of the machines they were installed
in. For example, solaris 2.5 dropped support for both the cg12 and GT, so
anyone that wants to continue to use these devices is now stuck on 2.4
forever. Sun should at least put out an "unsupported" driver which a
customer could use but that would not necessarily be supported by newer
releases of development libraries like XGL etc, just something to allow
people to run 2.5 with its NFS v3 etc, but also support the previous
generation graphics hardware. How long will Leo (ZX) be supported??
- Date: Tue Jun 4 23:51:43 PDT 1996
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Hmmm. Where to begin? Sun has WASTED 5 YEARS trying to get Solaris 2 up to
where SunOS 4.1.4 was *years* ago. THINK of how *excellent* SunOS 4 could
have been if Sun had taken a clue from NeXT - replaced the guts of the
SunOS kernel with Mach for greater portability (Intel, PowerPC, etc.),
support for 64-bit architectures (UltraSparc, DEC Alpha, etc.), SMP,
threads, security (the "trusted Mach" project), real-time support (real-
time Mach), etc. I can't think of one feature of Solaris 2.5 that Mach
hasn't had for years. Hell, they could have even done a SysV "environment"
to sit beside the BSD layer, and the Wabi layer, and the MAE layer... tie
them all together with a unified window manager and SunOS could have
been... very cool or very confused. :-) (Well, before Sun or Apollo or SGI
even *existed* there was the PERQ, which ran Accent, which begat Mach. It
featured "co-equal environments" under a unified window system: a native
environment, a Unix environment, and a LISP environment, each of which
relied upon the kernel for common services but had a distinctly different
"flavor" of interaction - *and could even use a different instruction
set*. But I digress.) More importantly, the entire Sun user and developer
community would not have been split down the middle. A lot of people
bought Sun *for BSD-based SunOS* despite lots of faster hardware from
other vendors, all of whom where offering SysV abominations of every
flavor. SunOS on Mach could have provided _complete_ compatibility with
SunOS 4.1.x and kept the Sun community unif
- Date: Wed Jun 5 00:04:54 PDT 1996
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0. I am doing low level programming (not graphical)in C++ on SPARC and
serving as amateur sys admin on the side. 1. The basic low level tools in
Sol 2 are a good working set, BUT 2. I would like to have the rest of the
POSIX RealTime interface. 3. The fundamental problem with Sol 2 is that
Systems Administration is an "Abomination", with the information
distributed in hundreds of files in dozens of directories. If this is
really right way to store the data, it is then essential to have a fairly
intelligent and flexible expert system which handles more than the
completely routine cases. Maybe this could best be done over web links to
dedicated servers, rather than by trying to pack everything into the OS
distribution?
- Date: Wed Jun 5 00:39:10 PDT 1996
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None it all works so well. (Well except for eating memory so that my 32Mb
Sparc5 is always paging)
- Date: Wed Jun 5 01:00:03 PDT 1996
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Even though the support outside of India for Solaris 2 is good I am not
able to get the same level of support in India. This leads to a pretty
long time to get patches and hence disrupts work I would like to see a
full 64 bit solaris 2 OS on the Ultra sparc server
- Date: Wed Jun 5 01:27:44 PDT 1996
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Just changed my Workstation from Sparc/Solaris to PC/NT. Solaris not work
anymore as a desktop system (most people need a Wordprocessor..) but works
exelent on servers. What I realy would like was a Journaling file system
bundled (or prices should be a LOT lower for unbundled packages) Lars
- Date: Wed Jun 5 02:36:09 PDT 1996
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Integration with MS Windows applications: We originally purchased
Insignia's SoftWindows. Although this provided a complete emulation the
performance is very poor even on our fastest workstations (Sparc 20/71).
We are currently in the process of installing WABI on the workstations
which does provide a performance improvement over SoftWindows 2.0, but
provides a far less complete emulation. We have evaluated SunPC which gave
reasonable performance but at a relatively high cost. Now other areas are
evaluating Insignia's NTrigue which looks to be the most promising
solution so far. Migration from Solaris 2.3 to 2.5: My first impression of
2.5 is that it is a faster more stable version of Solaris - a real
improvement over 2.3. A must admit that I'm impressed! Having said that,
I'm also concerned that it does not appear to be completely backwards
compatible with 2.3. i.e. not all applications that ran on 2.3 will run
under 2.5. For example we will need to install a new version of Alsys
TeleUSE that we use to develop our UI. I'm now beginning to worry about
what other applications will need upgrading and what problems this will
cause for our own internal application! Alex Rooney arooney@ford.com
- Date: Wed Jun 5 02:47:30 PDT 1996
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Bundling some standard office applications would be very nice
- Date: Wed Jun 5 05:04:53 PDT 1996
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I wish Solaris had better laptop support. In addition, Solaris x86 needs
MUCH more marketing!
- Date: Wed Jun 5 05:06:35 PDT 1996
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I like Solaris because (1) it supports large file systems and (2) because
it can recognize new devices without my help.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 05:31:02 PDT 1996
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I want to run Windows apps., specifically, MSMail, MSSchedule+, and Lotus
Notes. I am currently looking at solutions like WABI and SoftWindows. Need
to know the best solution for this.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 05:50:05 PDT 1996
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People don't like it. They refuse to move fromn 4.1.x.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 06:33:31 PDT 1996
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Uses too much RAM.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 06:34:56 PDT 1996
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figuring out autofs, annoying /opt requirements,
- Date: Wed Jun 5 07:06:34 PDT 1996
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Can't *get* Solaris 2.5, though order placed more than 2 months ago!
- Date: Wed Jun 5 07:41:15 PDT 1996
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Learning how to maintain and operate. My agency bought the Sun0S system(s)
for my program's use but failed to offer any training. After a year of the
system being up and running, training has finally been offered to the
systems administrators. I personally love using the Sun unix systems
because it's user friendly, self sufficient and fast! Keep your developing
team working, Sun systems are worth investing in!
- Date: Wed Jun 5 08:51:20 PDT 1996
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Monitoring and performance tools for very large systems.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 09:49:39 PDT 1996
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'socket hang' problem, allegedly fixed by Jumbo Kernel Patch 39.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 09:52:32 PDT 1996
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Moving users from dumb terminals (VT400-type) to workstations, PCs, X-
terminals, NCs or what?
- Date: Wed Jun 5 11:15:17 PDT 1996
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Compatibility of Solaris 2.x with legacy applications (esp. debuggers). In
some instances the vendors are out of business or are no longer supporting
the product.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 11:51:48 PDT 1996
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compatability between windows/NT/solaris applications. desktop tools which
can read Microsoft documents on Sun with ease, i.e, point and click cheap
industrial strenght desktop office suite, i.e, word processing,
spreadsheets,personal finance. more robust sysadmin tools to over wider
number os machine which can be adminstered.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 13:48:31 PDT 1996
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Getting users to upgrade machines, memory and disk to be able to run
Solaris with reasonable performance.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 15:18:27 PDT 1996
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Upgarding Solaris 2.5 from Solaris 2.4. I have tried twice to upgrad, and
I failed. I also have a SUN S/W engineer on site when I attemped to upgrad
Solaris 2.5, but the engineer and I spent 12 hours and not succeeded
upgrading. The engineer said that I have to install full version of
Solaris 2.5 instead of upgrading it because the previous upgraded patches
which SUN required upto Solaris 2.4 were buggy and creating complecation
with the upgrading option in Solaris 2.5. My server is running Solaris 2.4
with 8 CPUs, 2 gb mem, 2 SUN Storage Arrays, and Fddi interface.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 15:21:48 PDT 1996
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Lack of really useful freeware. I run BSD/OS from BSDi on my laptop which
I use at home because it came prebundled with a nice set of freely
available development tools and utilities. These include gcc, tcpwrappers,
tk/tcl, fvwm, etc... I would like to see more bundling and less unbundling
in Solaris distributions. I would also like to see more support of
hardware in the x86 versions. I was unable to get 2.5/x86 to even install
on my Pentium laptop. Security is also a major concern. I'm unimpressed
with the security of the basic Solaris distribution. On every machine I
administer running Solaris-2, I've had to install a new version of
sendmail, tcpwrappers, s/key, and ssh.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 21:03:01 PDT 1996
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No "C" compiler, No technical online Docs.
- Date: Wed Jun 5 23:13:03 PDT 1996
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- Upgrade to 2.5.
- Integration with other servers/WS running IRIX and HP-UX
- NFS ver. 3.0 (Solaris 2.5) equiv. to NFS ver. 3.0 in IRIX 5.3?, same
NFS performance with IRIX as client as an Sparc running 2.5?
- Transition
NIS to NIS+
- Reducing the number of Sparc servers, merging two SS1000 to
one Ultra?
- Achieving stability running several Sybase SQL servers on one
Sparc Regards, Erling, Oslo, Norway
- Date: Thu Jun 6 05:55:32 PDT 1996
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1. Integrating with PCs running PCNFS 2. Integrating with PCs on Novell
Network 3. Integrating with PCs running Windows NT 4. Securing Internet
connection 5. Automating Sys Admin tasks 6. Network management
- Date: Thu Jun 6 06:40:20 PDT 1996
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I still prefer BSD.
- Date: Thu Jun 6 07:19:28 PDT 1996
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running jdk getting pthreaded applications without having to install the
bloat of irix 6.2
- Date: Thu Jun 6 09:12:29 PDT 1996
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Some of upper managment thinks WinNT would be a better solution.
- Date: Thu Jun 6 09:49:38 PDT 1996
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Get the price of applications for end-user to the level of PCs and Mac
applications. This is where the battle is often lost and compromises must
be reached that affect the final deployment.
- Date: Thu Jun 6 11:37:48 PDT 1996
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Solaris is a great environment for doing in-house programming. It is much
more cost effective to develop software for in-house use on Solaris 2 than
on Microsoft Windows when you are deploying to a small ( less than 2000 )
desktop user base. We have about 800 Sun workstations in our company and
about 1000 PCs. Solaris on Intel theoretically makes it possible to
replace Windows with Solaris 2. This would elimintate support
redundencies, simpify mail, reduce user support costs, etc. but to replace
Windows with Solaris, there needs to be more general user type software
available at prices comparable to Windows.
- Date: Thu Jun 6 13:57:41 PDT 1996
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Nothing in particular.
- Date: Thu Jun 6 14:21:21 PDT 1996
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- Installing an Enterprise 4000 and Sybase system 11
- Installing
Solstice LM server to serve Windows NT desktops
- Adding functionality to
Solaris boot servers, so that (re)build/patching is faster
- Date: Thu Jun 6 16:18:52 PDT 1996
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- Worries about future of Solaris x86, which is something we'd like to
look at seriously, but haven't yet.
- Why not ship GNU utilities?
- Date: Thu Jun 6 21:50:56 PDT 1996
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Internet Server. Network Monitoring Tool. C++ Development tool. Mail
Server. CDE needs new face lift.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 00:57:05 PDT 1996
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Sparcs are expensive and have diminishing performance advantage over Intel
systems. Software is meager and expensive compared to Microsoft platforms.
Solaris is increasingly unsuitable as a web client, because important
helper apps aren't available, eg. Shockwave, QuicktimeVR, VRML, etc.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 02:34:34 PDT 1996
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We need more to be able to work with other systems (Novell/NT etc).
Clients for Novell and Windows NT would be really useful, as would built
in clients for the ICA protocal for remote Windows NT display. One useful
feature which should be made a standard part of the Server OS is
Autoclient, each Server OS license should include an AutoClient server
license and a reasonable number (50-100) client licenses. The Intel
version of Solaris should be cheaper, at least price comparable to Windows
NT, with similar support costs. Many sites like ours are skipping Windows
95 to go straight to NT, if Solaris were price comparable we would use it
instead.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 04:41:31 PDT 1996
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Printing is too difficult to administer in Solaris. The printer
configuration files seem spread out over the filesystem which made it
difficult to install and maintain network printers. I like the direction
Solaris has taken with graphical administration tools like software
managers. But Solaris clearly has a way to go to catch up to IRIX in that
regard. I'm also frustrated trying to use the new CDE 1.02. I like the
look but the transition from OpenWindows is cumbersome. The features for
customizing the desktop seem more obscure. I have trouble finding all of
the programs I'm used to.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 06:55:02 PDT 1996
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We would highly appreciate an OpenGL Implementation for Solaris/Intel
Desktops (e.g. for the ELSA Gloria or similar Framebuffers).
- Date: Fri Jun 7 08:00:06 PDT 1996
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Takes too long to learn how to use & administer. I wish Sun had stayed
with a BSD based system. Sun is really giving us grief about keeping 4.1.X
working here. Like, there are no supported drivers for many devices now.
This is an old-IBM-ish attitude, which is full of hubris. I wish Sun would
change its mind on this.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 08:39:35 PDT 1996
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Need reliable and easy system administration and operating system
installation. Portability with PCs. We all have PCs at home and SUNs at
work. Sooner or later, a choice will have to be made between the two.
Because of the low PC prices, cheaper software, increasing processing
power, and large installation base, I am afraid PCs may win out which
would be a shame.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 09:04:14 PDT 1996
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Available software applications/games/tools are not as plentiful as those
for Windows. If I could use ccMail 2.21, Microsoft Word, Microsoft Excel,
Pointcast Network applitcation/screen saver and a stable non-crashing Web
Browser I would no longer need my PC in work. Currently there is no upto
date Web Browser that I know of to use on Solaris 2.5/CDE. I can't believe
Sun has not made a Web Browser available for OpenWindows/CDE based on
Netscape or Microsoft's Internet Explorer that include all the latest HTML
extensions and Java.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 09:27:45 PDT 1996
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I would like to easily buy hardware and software for Sparc solaris2 and at
a price competetive with the PC world.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 09:44:54 PDT 1996
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Integrating with other systems is difficult. Wabi stinks and we use
SoftWindows. Communications/CORBA need to be part of the OS solution. We
have old equipment and the OS is getting too big to fit on 400 Meg of disk
-- I certainly can not load up CDE. The OS contains some things I do not
need but it is very difficult to figure out what I can remove without
impairing the system. The installation documents for Solaris releases
should include detailed information on how to pare down the system to fit
on a smaller disk.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 09:49:44 PDT 1996
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Need more GUI system admin tools Need better documentation for upgrading
Solaris where /usr /opt and so on are extended with other software Re-
installing everything is a pain on my 2 16 GB stations
- Date: Fri Jun 7 11:00:11 PDT 1996
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Not enough reliable integration with Microsoft Office products. OR, decent
solaris applications that do the same tasks. Right now my organization is
looking at replacing ALL of the SUN desktops with Intel/NT boxes. I firmly
believe that if SunSoft had made available a suite of office products that
worked/acted like the Microsoft office products, I wouldnt be faced with
this massive shift to PCs. I like the SUNs I have here, and I like
SunOS/Solaris 2. I have doing systems administration for many years, and I
dread this shift to Intel/Microsoft (but management wants their excel &
word and WABI was just too slow)
- Date: Fri Jun 7 11:55:30 PDT 1996
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Currently, none.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 13:10:46 PDT 1996
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Running larger databases on Solaris. Dealing with patch management. Making
Solaris more secure. Dealing with constant sniping from Digital
Alpha/Digital UNIX proponents. I wish that more parts of Solaris were more
standard and up to date. For example, only SOlaris uses the le0:1 method
of aliasing, every other UNIX uses the BSD "alias" modifier to "ifconfig"
instead. SunSoft should also work harder on including more recent versions
of Sendmail, BIND, etc. and keeping them up to date with bug fixes and
security patches. DCE integration would be nice too.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 22:11:18 PDT 1996
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one of the most ridiculous is the lack of, or hard to find gui Internet
utilities. If it weren't for Unix there would be no Internet, but all of
the Windows versions of utilities are nicer, easier to use, and abound by
the dozens. I have found a lot of utilities for Unix, but finding X
windows stuff is hard. A couple that I use are based on Tcl/Tk which is
nice. and the one glaring omission is a good web browser. Waiting for a
version of Netscape that runs on x86 Solaris is a pain. Mosaic just
doesn't cut it. For stability and speed, solaris x86 smokes NT on my same
hardware at home. With this in mind, who needs NT. And I'm a MSCE on top
of that. oh well. thanks for reading this far.
- Date: Fri Jun 7 22:18:41 PDT 1996
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Seems that my sys-admin is much slower in upgrading software and making
Solaris 2.5 work. She is months behind...
- Date: Fri Jun 7 23:49:50 PDT 1996
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- out of date or missing documentation of features and changes
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insufficient automatic system tuning
- good performance monitoring tools
not provided with system
- GUI administration tools don't work in many
configurations
- a lack of consistency in APIs, where
applications/features that do similar types of work but were developed by
different groups can have very different interfaces
- steps to improve
security (that you publish) haven't been done by Sun
- Date: Sat Jun 8 00:53:25 PDT 1996
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The number of apps has to increase for it to hold on against NT. For
instance, I've been looking for a quicktime movie player for months now.
Just about nothing is available. Even if it is (as I'm sure quicktime is),
its hard to track. Having lived with Sun/SUNOS for 8 yrs now, I'm not
going to move over to that NT crap, but there's definitely a problem to be
solved.
- Date: Sat Jun 8 08:18:01 PDT 1996
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On Sol 2.5 x86 - the PPP connect operations are just broken. I am
convinced the Sun's new dynamic addressing for PPP does not actually work.
I have tried everything: read the faqs, contacted SunService, read
comp.protocols.ppp, comp.unix.solaris, etc, and all I find are people as
baffled as me with hanging PPP connections to their ISPs. Do you know how
effectively MS is eating your lunch ? They have forced the market to
SIMPLIFY. When you buy from an ISP you get a phone # and a DNS address.
Forget masks, submasks, gateways, and all that Unix crap that clutters up
Suns systems files. You people can write a script that rebuilds the
kernal, why the hell can't you write a script that sets up in intel
standalone to a PPP ISP ? Right now I have to use WinNT/MS Explorer to
contact Sun and say these because things your PPP software DOES NOT WORK
IN SOL 2.5 x86 ! It is the truth, and that is what I tell people. I am
harve@sprynet.com
- Date: Sun Jun 9 11:56:20 PDT 1996
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Affordable OA applications. Users prefer Win95 (and it's kind) because of
the quantity of affordable OA applications.
- Date: Sun Jun 9 23:05:19 PDT 1996
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Migration of our applications from Solaris 2.3 to Solaris 2.5
- Date: Mon Jun 10 03:08:00 PDT 1996
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Solaris's printing system cannot handle 100 queues. They work some time
but when one queue fails others go whith it too.
- Date: Mon Jun 10 05:58:54 PDT 1996
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Problems with robustness of the SCSI and Serial Interfaces are common.
Solaris does not behave well when a single scsi device becomes
inaccessible. The entire system becomes unusable. It took many weeks to
obtain an answer from sun support regarding a specific question regarding
tuning of NFS V3.0 on Solaris 2.5. Even though I had full information and
a very specific question, I was bounced around between support groups
(kernel,network, etc.). It seems that most of the general support people
were unable to properly understand my question. I would have prefered to
write it up and have it directly forwarded to an engineer. In general,
Solaris is quite robust and usuable, though I have seen problems when
using non-Sun software. (Example: I use a freeware window manager, fvwm,
and every time I exit the window system, the X Server dumps core)
- Date: Mon Jun 10 07:04:40 PDT 1996
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Get Microsoft App `s ported please
- Date: Mon Jun 10 08:28:40 PDT 1996
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The problems I face with Solaris 2.5 is price, on both platforms (Sparc &
Intel). Although, Solaris is suppose to be the leader in OS, I often find
myself going back to Solaris 1.X because of the ease of use and many
documentations out on BSD. I think that Solaris 2.X should include an
compiler as part of the price. I often find myself compiling software on
Solaris 1.x and ftping it to a 2.X host because of the lack of a compiler.
Also, that CDE on Solaris 2.5 needs help too. After installing the OS 5
times on a Sparc 5, I finally gave up and went with Openwindows. Not much
help from your techsupport people too, often I get a faster response from
Usenet than from Sun on complex questions. Many of the help people there
are just rookies to the Unix environment, and I find myself teaching them
a command or two. If sun.com wants Solaris to be a leader in OS, put a
compiler with it. I hope that you'll take notice, -carlos
- Date: Mon Jun 10 09:58:21 PDT 1996
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PPP support, better documentation (INCLUDE Answerbook with standard OS)
Battle against NT mania
- Date: Mon Jun 10 10:22:23 PDT 1996
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changing over to Solaris 2! Major pain!
- Date: Mon Jun 10 12:26:45 PDT 1996
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The Openwindows X11 server is FAR TO SLOW!! This is the single most
pressing problem with solaris today. Next after that is the problem that
pathces/fixes are lagging behind on Solaris for Intel, which makes Linux
seem like a real alternative.
- Date: Tue Jun 11 06:59:11 PDT 1996
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It's not 64 bit (yet) Password aging not support by nis. ACLs in a nfs
environment; What standard are SUN going to follow? Basically I like
Solaris, It's a shame that SUN's hardware is not the quickest in the
world.!
- Date: Tue Jun 11 09:56:39 PDT 1996
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The lack of performance monitoring tools. Most tools today deal with
network or the CPU as a whole and not breaking down the applications into
CPU and memory hogs. I grown up in the mainframe environment and have
found performance anaylsis tools at that level to be very important in
software development. The main thing that Solaris lacks is the interface
to go and get the raw data that would give this info. Once the interface
is there then the performance tools can be built to give this information.
- Date: Tue Jun 11 13:18:19 PDT 1996
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Unless you bring out a pair of versions of Solaris that meet the following
criteria, I have serious doubt about your ability to continue at the top.
One A desktop version for Intel and powerPC that sells for around $100, is
easy to install (i.e. like Win95, a no brainer)and runs a GUI interface
automatically. Has automatic install of windows applications (Office,
Smartsuite etc...), automatic installation of hardware, inexpensive
hardware (not your call but you must have drivers available for every
implementation of Intel type PCs. For example I have a Dell Latitude XP
4100 which is on the compatibility list but doesn't install from the CDROM
because you don't have the driver for the PCMCIA card. Not having drivers
killed OS/2 for the desktop, learn from their mistake. If need be pay
hardware makers to write drivers for Solaris x86.)Also, you might want to
make the browser the user interface and link it to the applications the
user would want. Since I think the browser is the ultimate user app, make
it the GUI for the user. Put buttons and menu items for all file search,
file and directory management, application launching, connection to local
hardware, network, WANs, and the Internet. Two A easy to use and
administer departmental server package. Both on a very inexpensive SPARC
and Intel. Again, the example is NT which I do not view as an enterprise
server but is easy to install and, therefore, does not require the level
of knowledge and experience.
- Date: Wed Jun 12 05:56:22 PDT 1996
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I don't think SUN worked hard enough on promoting Solaris for x86. It is a
fine fine OS and has almost identical features as Solaris for Sparc. Why
can SUN just put compiled Netscape for Solaris x86 on ftp site? Many
Solaris users wanted it badly. SUNsoft should listen what users said in
Usenet newsgroups. I hope Solaris for x86 will long live! It is good for
SUn and for the users (because I don't want to learn another Unix OS for
Intel based machine.) Please make it strong and supply it with more apps!
Yuming Tung Le Moyne College
- Date: Wed Jun 12 06:36:54 PDT 1996
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better packaging, pricing; need to open the OS to developers; distribute a
"freeware" version like Linux
- Date: Wed Jun 12 07:01:37 PDT 1996
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Modem configuration to support data, voice & fax. PPP configuration. A
convient tool for non-root users to monitor and bring a PPP link up or
down. Volume mounter does not support large removable disks (i.e. zip,
jazz & tahiti) gaps in the applications available between Sparc & Intel
(i.e. cooltalk, wordperfect, VRML browser)
- Date: Wed Jun 12 07:39:50 PDT 1996
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On Solaris Intel since it has a much larger chance of having a non-
postscript printer on it, it should support the ability to print out
postscript files on inexpensive HP DeskJet printers. There is software out
that already does this and Sun actually license it for their Sales force
but not for their OS. Also, PPP on either platform needs improvement and
is extremely hard to setup since no GUI is supplied. One needs to edit 5-6
files, run dozens of commands and then debug why the connection isn't
working. Setting up PPP on Solaris is a chore, one that can take a day to
a month to get properly working! The admin tools that come with the
desktop need improvement. As for the OS, it's come a long way and its now
stable with 2.5. The 6 week DU's (Driver Updates) for Solaris x86 are very
nice in keeping that platform current with the latest PC boards.
- Date: Wed Jun 12 08:53:11 PDT 1996
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My work involves networked multimedia, so I work with Macs and SGIs a lot.
A benefit of Solaris 2 was the early availability of Java. However, SGI
has passed Solaris with Cosmo Code -- it is a much better debugging
environment than the flaky and bloated Java Workshop. And Solaris 2 doen't
support Quicktime or Mac connectivity as well as SGI.
- Date: Wed Jun 12 08:59:05 PDT 1996
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Oracle to ship 7.3 version of workgroup server for solarix x86
- Date: Wed Jun 12 13:47:46 PDT 1996
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Compared to other commercial Unixes, it's fine. Like other commercial
Unixes, it's huge compared to Linux. The /usr/dt - /usr/openwin split is a
bit of a pain, especially when including headers and linking libs, but is
easily worked around. CDE icons for 3rd party apps should be available and
installable into user environments right from pkgadd or somesuch. As a
desktop, Solaris and the other Unixes will probably never break out of
their current niche since most end-users have been thoroughly brainwashed
by the MS dogma: they will never try anything else (new) as long as Bill
keeps feeding them unoriginal recycled goo. Solaris should concentrate on
the server and offer something MS can't reinvent without major pain. The
Ultra servers are a great start from the hardware side, but I have yet to
be convinced that Sun is delivering enough innovation quickly enough on
the software side. Java is a wait-and-see. Perhaps come up with something
a la LSF/PVM that allows for virtual machines consisting of multiple
nodes: real clustering.
- Date: Wed Jun 12 23:47:10 PDT 1996
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Keeping it up and running, though that's not too much of an issue. The
lack of a compiler witht he OS is hindering, but can be worked around.
- Date: Thu Jun 13 07:14:39 PDT 1996
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The main issue which i am faced with at the moment is which windows I
should run Openwindows or CDE. I know CDE is the one to go for, but
Openwindows is still more relaible and the tools are of a much better
standard (ie mailtool )
- Date: Thu Jun 13 09:46:38 PDT 1996
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I would like the CDE greatly improved:
- It still crashes from time to
time. Maybe this is a race condition somewhere, or a memory leak. It seems
to happen after it has been running for a while.
- It saves the session,
a great feature, but does not really save the state of applications --
unsaved edits in a textedit window for example are lost; does not save the
positions of icons on the screen, does not save the current directories of
applications, etc. At least some of this is inexcusable, it would not be
difficult to implement automatic saves in textedit's for example. That is
what tool-talk was invented for, and it is incomprehensible to me that Sun
would release the product this way, particularly since tooltalk itself is
part of the CDE.
- I have been a long-term user of Open Windows, (I still
use it about half the time) and find it annoying that the deskset tools
that come with CDE are in many cases a step backwards. I think that the
move away from Open Windows is correct, and Open Windows itself has become
a bit clunky. So I am moving towards CDE, accepting in any case that CDE
is the future. Nonetheless, it is distressing to see that some features of
Open Windows are much better than in the CDE: for example, the command
line in a terminal window is not editable- it is in Open Windows' command
tool: If I mistype something, I cant click in the middle of what I typed
and correct it.
- Date: Thu Jun 13 09:52:43 PDT 1996
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Poor notifications of critical faults in software, ie bugs which cause
RAID5 systems not to provide redundancy. NIS+ bugs and mysterious
problems. Lack of advanced tools to diagnose and check NIS+ problems and
faults. Wasting time configuring the same things on many clients and
servers. Lack of complete coherancy for diskless clients, ie installing
packages on a server doesn't make the package information available on the
clients. Installing patches and packages on a server don't automatically
get installed of have the option of being installed on the diskless
clients. Lack of perspective by developers of the admins installing and
configuring software and implementing utilities needed most on a day to
day basis. No system "health" checker to diagnose problems (eg death of
daemons, etc) and be proactive for assist in system operations. Lack of
force unmount option for NFS filesystems (ie telling client to foget about
mount point if the server has gone away) No option to reconfigure break
character on console line when remoting consoles to prevent halts from
hardware connected to the console line power cycling. (I don't consider a
US$1000 per machine consulting special to be a satisfactory solution) Lack
of inspection access to Solaris source code to help diagnose, solve
problems and integrate new systems.
- Date: Thu Jun 13 13:23:08 PDT 1996
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availability of third party software for solaris 2.5
- Date: Thu Jun 13 16:36:05 PDT 1996
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Migration from SunOS to Solaris SunOS application compatibility with
Solaris Solaris requires too much RAM and Space
- Date: Thu Jun 13 18:57:47 PDT 1996
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Need drivers for C\cjeap inkjet printers.
- Date: Fri Jun 14 05:26:31 PDT 1996
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I see an operating system that has the full potential to compete as a
desktop OS. However I think that Sun should promote Solaris more in that
manner. Corporate buyers are in the middle of a big paradigm shift from
16bit to 32bit OS's. Sun should capitalize on that more. Provide
productivity tools with Solaris that are not available with NT. Keep up
the good work.
- Date: Fri Jun 14 06:29:07 PDT 1996
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OK. I like the out-of-the-box security better than the loose practices of
SunOS 4.x. Of course, we still have to expect the sendmail "hole-of-the-
week." One of our machines is still running Solaris 2.4; I'm getting ready
to upgrade it to 2.5. We never did get all the thousands of patches
figured out for that system. I join with others who think that "saf" is no
improvement over "getty". Another activity coming up is to dispense with
"lp" and install somebody's freely available BSD-style print services.
We've got "lpr", etc., on several other platforms in our network,
including the Stratus VOS machine on which my section's most important
appliation runs. Having the C compiler unbundled makes me melancholy.
- Date: Fri Jun 14 09:28:45 PDT 1996
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The C compiler is not bundled with the OS. All my other Unix systems
include a "C" compiler. Don't care much for Admintool, inability to grow
and shrink file systems dynamically. Do not like NIS+, incompatible with
my other Unix systems.
- Date: Fri Jun 14 12:08:35 PDT 1996
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Stability of tools, no need to keep tweaking. Its irrating to have to keep
relearning. Interactivity with PC environment, file sharing, e-mail &
attachments. The more seemless the better for the Users. Patches!, Sun
should invest more up front, so we don't have to install patches later.
NIS+ is a dead issue with a heterogeneous environment.
- Date: Fri Jun 14 13:09:11 PDT 1996
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The only problem that I have run into lately with Solaris 2.5 is the
inability to install it successfully on a generic Pentium system. When
first exposed to Solaris 2 (which would have been 2.3) I was dismayed by
the fact that I had no C compiler to use; compilation of gcc and g++ fixed
that though. I have noticed an alarming trend in the industry though and
that is the increasing fees associated with using an operating system. HP
makes you pay per use of HPUX on a machine whether it is a server or a
desktop and I think that is a complete rip-off. I would not recommend
using HPUX as an enterprise operating system for that reason alone,
especially for intricate development work like using rpc for distributed
applications etc. What is next, pay per socket or pay per process? I hope
that Sun does not jump on that bandwagon!
- Date: Fri Jun 14 17:40:21 PDT 1996
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We have some problems moving applications from SunOS 4.x to Solaris.
Currently, we still support both. We are moving to drop SunOS 4.x. 64 bit
scares us.
- Date: Fri Jun 14 18:38:31 PDT 1996
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() Lack of Solaris apps for the Solaris x86 version, especially timely
releases of Web tools such as Netscape () Uses too much memory overall ()
2.5 Solaris moved many GUI admin functions off the Desktop version! ()
Want much stronger support/commitment from Sun for x86 version -- SPARC
hardware is just not cost-competitive any more with Intel-based personal
computers -- don't like MicroSoft products for server-hosted applications
-- need Solaris x86! Would also be interested in PowerPC version of
Solaris, as PowerPC platform matures. () 2.5 is by far the best version of
Solaris we've seen. Still want more speed, less memory consumption, more
good features "borrowed back" from 4.4 BSD UNIX () For development, we use
a LOT of free software tools; CVS, XEmacs, gcc, gdb, less, ... Wish that
there was more vendor CD releases in a timely fashion for these tools.
Getting Jealous of the huge tool bundle with Linux OS releases.
- Date: Fri Jun 14 19:42:10 PDT 1996
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If it's not made by Sun, don't expect it to run well on Solaris (examples:
SunPC, Parallax Video, Veritas volume manager, etc.). For Sun-only, it's
quite nice. Support for problems with non-Sun software on Solaris is poor.
- Date: Sat Jun 15 07:18:20 PDT 1996
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We have decided to standardize on Solaris as an enterprise computing
environment because the product bundle contains essentially all the
features we require for both desktops and servers, and because of its
multiplatform support (SPARC, X86, PPC). We will be making a major
hardware investment over the next three years -- cycling much of the
technology in our organization -- and we believe Solaris will more than
pay for itself by giving us the ability to choose among the three major
mass market architectures based solely on price and performance. We also
have a considerable existing inventory of SPARC and Pentium boxen -- both
of which we will be able to continue to use with Solaris. We are delighted
by SunSoft's commitment to CDE -- we need a windowing environment with a
slick appearance to satisfy the roughly 50 percent of our customers who
are addicted to their legacy MS-Windows environment -- and we are
impressed with both the stability and the performance of recent releases
of SunOS. We are a 24-hour/365-day operation, and every OS crash has the
potential to jeopardize a broadcast deadline. WABI is also becoming more
functional, and better integrated with CDE, giving us a plausible way to
satisfy the demands for those who absolutely must run MS-Windows apps on
their local desktop systems. The issues, from our perspective, include:
(1) Better color support. We can't expect our legacy MS-Windows users to
put up with colormap flashing.
- Date: Mon Jun 17 04:30:56 PDT 1996
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The Solstice Admin Tools that come with the server edition have to many
bugs. They have a nice GUI interface but they don't work correctly. The
SSPC for printer management does not install correctly right out of the
box. I had to uninstall it and download the correct install script from
the SUN web page. I have not had good luck with the SUN technical support
either. We have a software only support contract with then.
- Date: Mon Jun 17 06:55:02 PDT 1996
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I'm not happy with Sun dropping support for Dataless systems after Solaris
2.5. I run ~160 dataless sun workstations currently. On the other hand
I've yet to find a good method for adding new patches to my systems. I
hope you're planning some easy (cheap) transition. Bundling Perl would be
great. The printing system is still problematic. I can't print to several
of my techtronics printers from Solaris. Using these printers from either
SunOS or Digital Unix is fine.
- Date: Mon Jun 17 07:48:07 PDT 1996
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Slow response for OS patches that deal with large-scale networks, for
instance: automount, syslogd, nscd/DNS. Lack of (hardware & software)
support for Intel version, which requires me to run a second OS on my
intel-class servers (namely FreeBSD). Scant documentation (at
administrative level) for configuring CDE, portmon, and lp.
- Date: Mon Jun 17 09:23:33 PDT 1996
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Price could be cheaper. Online web support is excellent. Would be nice to
add GNU utilities as pkgadd(1M) options.
- Date: Mon Jun 17 09:40:21 PDT 1996
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memory usage unresolved system hangs
- Date: Tue Jun 18 07:40:09 PDT 1996
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Solaris 2.5 is much improved on earlier versions of Solaris 2.x but still
I find the number of bugs and consequent patches required to the operating
system to be too numerous compared to other similar O.S. However, given
the rate of improvement I hope that Solaris should achieve an acceptable
level of bugs by 2.6. In other areas (eg Jumpstart, Autoclient) Solaris
appears to be ahead of its rivals. BTW - AUtoclient had better come
bundled in 2.6 when support for diskless/dataless client ceases.
- Date: Tue Jun 18 08:27:00 PDT 1996
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I would like the disk partitions coud be sized easely, included in the
operating system. aplications that wabi runs over unix, si a good start
but unix versions shoud be developed, look alike versions.
- Date: Tue Jun 18 11:03:33 PDT 1996
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My major gripe with Solaris 2.x is the apparently poor implementation of
the init scripts. For instance, having init run the shutdown command (via
/etc/inittab) seems strange. And though I expect daemons to hang around
when I run 'init S' I would expect them to die when I run 'init 1' yet
most do not. I have also noticed that there are apparent relationships
between init and some daemons (such as vold) that cause init to do weird
things if the daemon is killed by an rc script. An article that clearly
explains the way this system works on Solaris and the inter-dependancies
of daemons would be a nice thing (if it has not been done yet).
- Date: Tue Jun 18 18:04:33 PDT 1996
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Integration with desktop-systems (Macintosh, Windows NT..)
- Date: Wed Jun 19 15:59:15 PDT 1996
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defending it and it's lack of applications for the *common* user. solaris
NEEDS something like Microsoft's "Office" suite of software.
- Date: Wed Jun 19 16:15:30 PDT 1996
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Slow TCP performance is killing me. Make patches publicly available.
Everything else seems pretty good.
- Date: Wed Jun 19 20:57:07 PDT 1996
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Removing NIS+ support from the standard admintool was a mean, nasty, dirty
trick on the part of Sunsoft. I have spent 2 years praising Solaris 2.x to
the jeers from all of the BSD crowd, only to have Sun screw me into buying
Solstice admin. Solaris 2.x keeps getting better, but what surprises lurk
around the corner on my next upgrade? Will man pages suddenly become
"optional?" Shame, shame, Sunsoft. Don't blow it! Joe Portelli, Sysadmin
College of Engineering Penn State University portelli@cedcc.psu.edu
- Date: Wed Jun 19 23:19:42 PDT 1996
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connectivity with others i.e Windows 3, 95 NT
- Date: Thu Jun 20 01:32:17 PDT 1996
-
PC Integration MAC Integration Provision of File service to large numbers
(more than 200) simulatneous users (drawn from a population of 1500)
- Date: Thu Jun 20 02:17:04 PDT 1996
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bugs in their so-called V8 sendmail, that doesn't have any of the REALLY
useful features of V8.
- no database support
- stupid bug in not
defaulting the value of Dm
- no mailertable support
- Date: Thu Jun 20 02:19:37 PDT 1996
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- the printing system is awful. Lots of problems in handling printer and
user errors.
- lack of a high level 3D programming environment (like
OpenGL).
- lack of NIS+ support in other environments.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 04:29:00 PDT 1996
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Security Object-Oriented Programming environments Web development
- Date: Thu Jun 20 04:50:34 PDT 1996
-
Solaris x86 just doesn't support a broad enough range of hardware. The X
server under solaris x86 should be easier to configure correctly. Should
have some sort of test program to allow the user to pick different
monitor/video card specs and perform all necessary calculations.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 04:51:47 PDT 1996
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Is this some marketing tool, or what? Editor's note:
No, it's not. It's just a reader poll conducted by the editors.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 04:52:36 PDT 1996
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Increasing performance from WABI Keeping up with patches Backing up
multiple SUNOS and Solaris servers with one solution Maintaining multiple
NIS+ servers Printing problems with SPARC and NeWS printers
- Date: Thu Jun 20 05:11:05 PDT 1996
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I heard a rumor that there is not going to be any more patches for Solaris
2.4, they sayed that is is best for me to skip to version 2.5. But as a
service provider (internet), I am not going to do that. (No time and not
enough computers to build a stable system...)
- Date: Thu Jun 20 05:28:38 PDT 1996
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Configuring Solaris for _anything_ but standard setups is a real pain. The
printing system is very difficult to configure & maintain. System
administration tasks seem overly complex, and seem to change with every
release of the system, with little appreciable improvement. The process of
installing and/or upgrading Solaris leaves necessary configuration steps
incomplete (e.g. defaultdomain, defaultrouter, resolv.conf,
nsswitch.conf). I _really_ dislike the tendency to require obtaining
special licenses for important parts of the system (e.g. Solstice). I find
the lack of a basic C compiler extremely annoying.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 05:50:25 PDT 1996
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Risk involved in running Sol 2.5 as opposed to 2.4. Already have found
some software will not make the changeover.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 06:22:06 PDT 1996
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Upgrade problems from 2.4 to 2.5 (basically have to re-install) Lack of
included C Compiler Lack of effective performance monitoring tools
- Date: Thu Jun 20 06:25:41 PDT 1996
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Needs to go to 64 bit for large scale databases. Solaris vs NT support.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 06:32:36 PDT 1996
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2Gb file limitations in database environments.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 06:37:02 PDT 1996
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- The ability to support Windows-based clients in a seamless manner.
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Security for NFS and/or a high priority for DFS availability.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 06:42:19 PDT 1996
-
Keeping up to date with the latest OS releases, including patches, and
getting those changes integrated and released into our product. Our
department uses Macintoshes heavily. I haven't seen too many really good
tools to mix Solaris and Mac invironments.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 06:59:28 PDT 1996
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- Better System performance monitoring tools would help sys admins evaluate
performance issues.
- More GUI interfaces
- ADMINTOOL is limited
- Date: Thu Jun 20 07:06:42 PDT 1996
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Support from Sun is inadequate or unresponsive. Installation of diskless
clients require the use of a GUI interface with no command line options.
User and system admin. training is expensive and time consuming.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 07:15:32 PDT 1996
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Need more easier installation of nisplus and graphical user interface for
nisplus management.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 08:32:26 PDT 1996
-
- license upgrade hassles
- lack of useable / relevant documentation
-
applying filters to network printers/plotters (not connected to a server)
- dial-in PPP routing nightmares
- no realistic method for implimenting
and maintaining disk quotas
- lousy documentation
- lousy documentation
-
lousy documentation
- Date: Thu Jun 20 08:59:15 PDT 1996
-
Converting device drivers from SunOS 4.1.4/Solaris 1.2 to Solaris 2.5 is
the biggest task preventing us from moving to Solaris 2.5. I wouldn't have
used any version of Solaris before 2.4 anyway due to performance concerns.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 09:16:25 PDT 1996
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Although I have software support, I think that OS patches should be
available to all users with or without support. You should have to have
support to get the next version of the OS without charge, but it seems
that if someone's paid for a version of the OS and it's buggy (as every OS
is of course) then the buyer deserves the improvements to the existing
version of the product. Other than that, I've been happy with Solaris 2.
It was a big deal at first moving from Solaris 1 to Solaris 2, but once we
got used to the changes it was okay. Each version does seem better than
the last (less buggy, higher performance) which is nice.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 09:39:11 PDT 1996
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As we are a small publishing business running Xyvision Publishing on
SunSparc LX and SunSparc Classic systems, and cannot afford to make the
financial commitment to upgrade to the newer SPARC systems, we encourage
Sun to maintain support for the SPARCClassic and LX lines. This is true
for both software and hardware components. I'm sure there are thousands of
customers like us with this need. We also see the need for Sun to take a
stronger role is providing a good third-party hardware certification role
regarding the Solaris operating system. All too often we find tape, disk
and other hardware vendors not on a strong ground with Sun regarding a
good certification program. This in comparison to Microsoft's Windows NT
certification program. Microsoft works in large measure with other
hardware and software vendors to the degree that Microsoft tests and
maintains a very large and up to date list of certified vendors for NT.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 10:09:47 PDT 1996
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Solaris (Slowraris, Solcrapis, etc.) is a memory hog and a pig when run on
anything less than UltraSPARCs. On UltraSPARCs, it is a joy to use, in
terms of responsiveness and performance. (But I still have /usr/ucb in my
$PATH before anything else).
- Date: Thu Jun 20 10:34:45 PDT 1996
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- Terrible default disk partition sizes during installation. Less
experienced sys-admins are constantly getting zapped by this problem.
Please change the defaults to give more room in the root filesystem!
-
Solaris seems to require a constant stream of patches to fix OS bugs. It
is difficult for us 'casual' sys-admins to keep up. We need better post-
installation support.
- WABI is very limited.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 10:39:05 PDT 1996
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The usual, lack of administration tools, lack of system analysis tools,
lack of performance analysis tools, etc.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 11:06:35 PDT 1996
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Difficult to Administrate the OS
- Date: Thu Jun 20 12:54:01 PDT 1996
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migration
- Date: Thu Jun 20 13:03:10 PDT 1996
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Lack of full Answer Book is a problem. My supplier only provided a desktop
version, so I have to go elswhere for answers to relatively simple
questions. Also NT is looking better and better,
- Date: Thu Jun 20 13:39:15 PDT 1996
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I would like to run it on my PC at home, but I believe that it is too
expensive. I muddle along with Linux and Windows 95.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 13:55:28 PDT 1996
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making it secure for Internet applications
- Date: Thu Jun 20 14:05:58 PDT 1996
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PC applications somtimes necessary.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 14:29:05 PDT 1996
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The JumpStart Installation is a good start but needs work. Why do alot of
the ENV variables only get set if you use the corresponding keywords? Also
many problems due to rarpd, bootparamd, and nisd not handling multiple
addresses on the same ethernet interface correctly. Why not switch to
BOOTP/DHCP? instead of BOOTPARAM? The Solstice AdminSuite is also a good
start but needs work. There are alot of administration tasks which still
cannot be done through the GUI. Configuring Kernel Parameters? Managing
Disk Partitions, Exported and Imported Filesystems? I don't know where Sun
is headed with NIS+, and FNS, and DCE? I think NIS+ has alot of things
going for it, but the Documentation stinks, and It really needs to be
simplified. With NIS(YP) your domainname did not have to match your DNS
domain name. I made them different then because I wanted to know which
peices of the system depended on which name. SUN sendmail for instance
always tried to append the NIS domainname to the hostname for the return
address. I could have made them the same, It would have worked, but I
would never know if things were working because they were configured
right, or just because of coincidence. Now with NIS+ this nightmare is
twice as bad. It never says that they don't have to match. It never says
they do. In all of Sun's examples they make them the same. It will work
with them different though -- Until you try to use Solstice Adminsuite to
manage it.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 15:12:48 PDT 1996
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We still use a replacement printsystem; something that does a superset of
/etc/printcap is important. CDE seems slowish. I have clients asking how
to get back to twm surprisingly often. Some kind of platform independent
interpreter for executables (apart from the web) would be a big boon for
unix. Maybe that's should be java in another role, I don't know, but it's
no less important, regardless. Now that unix is out from under the control
of AT&T and its price goudging, Microsoft is the big spectre. Willows,
WINE, and similar efforts, need backing. There are a lot of unbundled
products that sound good, that we'll probably never look into. I realize
you have to offload costs to the people who truly want things sometimes,
but if something isn't bundled, we aren't likely to go with it. EG, Having
JFS bundled with everything would be a good move. Also, I realize that new
customers respond well to "this unix box comes pre-configured to do such-
and-so", and that sun's new marketing strategy intends to cater to that
somewhat. However, I really hope that doesn't mean sun will be sinking a
lot of time into fragmented development efforts that long-time sun users
won't get anything out of. The beauty of unix, and unix's curse, is that
it does SO much right out of the box - and all that freedom is daunting to
the uninitiated.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 16:43:59 PDT 1996
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The base Solaris system requires TCP Wrappers as an option, and requires a
HTML based configurator. It also seriously needs standard public-domain
and shareware tools bundled as part of the OS, since Digital is making a
point of doing so and DEC is Sun's major competition IMHO.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 18:41:32 PDT 1996
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Affording to purchase Solaris for x86. In my prior job (6 months ago), I
used Solaris extensively. The main issue for me was: productivity. We used
Sun's C++ compiler environemnt and sadly it didn't provide a very good
visual component. Yes a visual component was there (if you were using
Motif). What would be really cool is an IDE for Windows PC that automates
UNIX compiles. Naturally you couldn't expect Motif windows but
something... Windows95 and WindowsNT provide superior development
environments, in my opinion. This is alot coming from a former AT&T
employee, who was a major UNIX bigot. and an Amiga bigot before that...
- Date: Thu Jun 20 19:22:53 PDT 1996
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Installation of PPP / CDE on standalone PC's - the problem is that *most*
PC's are not networked (they have no network card installed at all). They
network thru cua/b to the inter net. Sun's installation, support, docs,
everything is totally geared toward networked computors. The connectivity
issues for standalone PC's are unique, such machines have no native IP's,
masks, gateways, etc., and you have to kludge to get them to PPP w/Sol
2.x. Right now I have PPP up, I am using OW, because CDE will not load
with PPP going. Harve
- Date: Thu Jun 20 19:28:39 PDT 1996
-
I use windoze 95 at home...much slower, even on a 486DX2/80 w/ 16M of ram
but, it's got some nifty features that would be nice on solaris. task
bar...interactive popups...more customizability, etc.
- Date: Thu Jun 20 20:16:33 PDT 1996
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How to improve the performance of Solaris?
- Date: Thu Jun 20 23:03:15 PDT 1996
-
- developing portable software - maintaining a reliable workstation net
for small research group
- Date: Thu Jun 20 23:13:24 PDT 1996
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CDROM Support. I have generic Toshiba on X86/solaris @home. Bought one for
sparc @work, ate big crow "Sun supports standards" or so I thought. X86
can't see other partitions. Get real. Linux does a great job. Can't figure
out novelleux compatability stuff in 2.5. Docs are probably ok. cant find
them. Support goes away after 30 days, My troubles don't! PCNFS is an
awesome package. Give me PC admin and I can do a better job than my
companies novelleoux weenies. Speed is better that prev solarises. Almost
as good as 4.1.3!!! SGI wants to beleive that all users are 100% SGI
centric. Don;t loose track of the need for heterogenous benefits to your
user base. Go with Java! John Westerdale westerj@nji.com
- Date: Fri Jun 21 03:22:37 PDT 1996
-
Software is more expensive than for Windows (FrameMaker vs. Word). The
system is shrinking (lost C compiler, Backup Copilot, network clients).
- Date: Fri Jun 21 07:08:43 PDT 1996
-
Need more utilities with Solaris 2. I wish there were better admintools. I
would also like to see a compiler bundled with the OS. Charge more if you
need to. I hate to order the Sparc Complier then wait up to three days to
get a license code to install it.
- Date: Fri Jun 21 07:10:33 PDT 1996
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There are still too many packages we use (often from the Internet) which
won't run under Solaris 2 for us to consider transitioning. Also, we've
had some bad experiences with the print spooler. Basically, it's OK for
desktops but I wouldn't trust it on the server!
- Date: Fri Jun 21 07:20:58 PDT 1996
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Sun better come up with a NT solution or it will be history.
- Date: Fri Jun 21 08:51:55 PDT 1996
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swap space concerns (double accounting of certain types of files in /tmp)
lack of easy to use applications Love it tho :)
- Date: Fri Jun 21 10:08:06 PDT 1996
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Configuring CDE, knowing which files (if any) one can copy to an entire
network, making it all similar. How do I customize each menu with icons
that would do the same thing as something I type in command line? How do I
copy such settings to another machine to make it default?
- Date: Fri Jun 21 13:04:43 PDT 1996
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It is a very powerfull OS but really lacks some basics. Like eg. no print
button in textedit ???? admintool is very poor implemented no user
friendly communication program (instead of tip) vold is a more a pain in
the .. than it is usefull. Solaris (unix) is still not userfriendly today.
Too much technical knowledge is still required to do the most basic tasks.
- Date: Fri Jun 21 13:16:46 PDT 1996
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too expensive, in light of linux incursion
- Date: Fri Jun 21 16:00:39 PDT 1996
-
I find the need to install loads of patches to the system after installing
it to be very obnoxious. I have also never gotten CDE to work worth a
crap.
- Date: Fri Jun 21 23:23:31 PDT 1996
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My biggest problem is with disk and filesystem maintainance. My auspex
servers have great disk adding and filesystem moving abilities. My SS2000
with DWIS disk trays in 56" cabinets and ODS4 does not. Veritas looks
good, but is expensive.
- Date: Sat Jun 22 17:47:18 PDT 1996
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Solaris 2.3 has been an unreliable OS for our clients. We are in the
process of upgrading them to Solaris 2.5 to improve this stability.
- Date: Sun Jun 23 02:58:10 PDT 1996
-
It needs to come with more support for enterprise backup out of the box,
i.e. not as an extra $2000 add-on. It needs to come with a C compiler
(yes, there is GNU, I use that too) but I think SPARCompiler C should come
with Solaris. It has always been a Un*x tradition to have a C compiler.
I'm not asking for SPARCWorks, just the compiler, linker, assembler, make,
and the usual suite of related utilities (strip, ar, ...)
- Date: Sun Jun 23 14:24:16 PDT 1996
-
- How to find a way to pay for the RAM I need to install so I can use
Solaris 2 on all of my SPARC machines.
- System configuration -- keeping
the folks in my domain happy and productive takes a lot of my time, even
though I'm not the official sysadmin.
- I don't understand the future
path of Solaris evolution, so I find it hard to plan for the future.
- Date: Mon Jun 24 05:59:53 PDT 1996
-
In fairness I have to say that Solaris 2.5 is faster and more reliable
than early version. The interactive speed that one sees when typing at a
x-term window is now only half the speed of Solaris 1 (SunOs 4.1.4) rather
than the ten times slower that it was, but Solaris 2x must be run on
hardware of much greater horsepower that necessary for SunOs 4.1.x, with
much greater memory. Solaris 2.x still has many problems; printing, serial
ports, routing, etc. are all broke in some way. I have had to replace the
Sun versions with BSD versions to make the systems useful. If you had a
Solaris 2.x only network, you would not notice some of the problems. But
most admins I know have to work with many OS's and hardware vendors. My
greatest wish is that Linix or BSDI have working versions of UNIX on Sparc
hardware before Sun Microsystems drops their support of SunOS 4.1.x
- Date: Mon Jun 24 10:59:59 PDT 1996
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Performance issures relating to high band network apps. Storage and
retrieve of data on RAID boxes.
- Date: Mon Jun 24 14:27:02 PDT 1996
-
I still think that it was absurd for Sun not to include a simple C
compiler with Solaris 2. It is inconvient to have to always involve a
development machine just to compile a short program. We don't write them
like we used to.
- Date: Tue Jun 25 06:07:37 PDT 1996
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Poor performance Heavy resource consumption
- Date: Tue Jun 25 06:24:20 PDT 1996
-
My biggest problem has to do with support. This is not anyone at
SunService who is a Solaris 'expert'. Everyone is knowledgeable in a
specific area. If you have a problem that spans more than one discipline,
you will have to talk to two or three different people. A good example is
setting up a PPP link to your internet provider.
- Date: Tue Jun 25 07:27:52 PDT 1996
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More Free applications and ports from SUN-OS like Administrative programs
- Date: Tue Jun 25 08:51:39 PDT 1996
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NIS+.... Migrating to Solaris 2.5
- Date: Tue Jun 25 11:30:31 PDT 1996
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Running NIS Master on Solaris Server SystemV print server
- Date: Tue Jun 25 11:35:53 PDT 1996
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Lack of performance of Sparc-based platforms. Solaris 2.5 is better than
Solaris 2.4, which in turn is better than 2.3, but it does not make the
Sparc hardware any better than it is. After benchmarking our key
application on Sun, SGI and IBM platforms, I find that SGI wins hands-
down. so it is the platform of choice. Our main strategy is therefore to
cautiously upgrade existing Solaris systems to wring more performance out
(memory, disk load) and switch to SGI when a particular system is to be
replaced. | Christoph Weber Sen. Research Associate | Dept.of Molecular
Biology, MB2 619-554-7283 or -8754 (phone) | The Scripps Research
Institute 619-554-3757 (FAX) | La Jolla CA 92037 weber@scripps.edu |
http://www.scripps.edu/~chazin/people/cw.html
- Date: Wed Jun 26 04:51:01 PDT 1996
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- Integration with Novell Netware including email (GMHS), file and print
services. Our Novell sides uses NDS instead of bindery making the use of
the NW Server a little bit of a hassle.
- The PPP package included with
Solaris is a bear to configure and install. Easier serial communications
in general would be a bonus.
- Support for a wider variety of printers
and ehanced HP support would be nice.
- It would be nice to see more
native software such as Corel Draw, WordPerfect, Visio, especially in
light of the UltraSparc and VIS.
- How about a C compiler, just a basic
simple C compiler :)
- Once NIS+ is working it works well, however until
you get there...
- Date: Wed Jun 26 06:55:45 PDT 1996
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Compatability of application software with OS upgrades.
- Date: Wed Jun 26 10:18:09 PDT 1996
-
solaris need to be much more cheaper !!!! or windoze will get more and
more applications...
- Date: Wed Jun 26 22:04:47 PDT 1996
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Lack of support for NIS+ naming service from PC desktop clients.
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